dude, the rest of the people on this trip complained (and i could see where they were comin from), but i enjoyed myself thoroughly. they seemed to be less confident in their level of fun. but i guess im just really tranquil like that. an absolutely beautiful camping trip to me would have been us all able to go on that entire camping trip hardly speaking a word, but still having fun, trippin, and then hangin out around the fire and stuff but still be happy with just being there in nature and soaking it all in. i guess most people need conversation..